So you aren't saving any money at this point on running gear. I was able to stop and visit the Seaboard crew on a recent visit to Oxnard at the end of July and got these pictures of my boat. Good Luck! Thanks for bringing this to the forum. most are done with aluminum which allows you to use a much, much thinker tubing. Ive always gone with foot switches and if properly placed I think they work very well but Im always open to options that do not include drilling more holes in the boat. 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I do not have an unlimited budget and acknowledge I will have to make some tough choices. - Bertram Parts | The remote is a Lewmar device. The 31 Bertram began the deep v revolution, in many ways paving the way for offshore fishing to gain popularity. 31 Bertram The Mercs would cruise around 23 knots with a top speed of 32+ knots. They're mostly heavy (for their output), dirty, loud, slow, and in need of TLC. 52 Hatteras They come with a two year warranty and cost about 28,000 complete package each. The 220A gear has a 10 degree down angle and would not fit. 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I splashed on Jan 16 2016 after a 4 1/2 year build and just turned 400 hours. This t. Vents I attached a picture from a week and half ago. Just some of my thoughts. by Joe E May 17th, '16, 01:36, Post Yard is saying do not have to change shaft or stuts and they have done several 31's already, Cummin would require the larger shafts and Struts, plus increased air flow, Any comments would be great and am sure will be needing more advice as we move forward, Thanks Captain Bill Mckinnon JP Dalik Senior Member Posts: 1317 What do you mean by a Full west coast stainless steel railing package? Navatech/Tony - exactly my thoughts. The one thing not mentioned is the flexibility of the shafts. Sometimes it was a two person job and I never had confidence in hauling anchor without issues. The meeting place for all Classic Bertram Owners and Fans, Moderators: CaptPatrick, mike ohlstein, Bruce, Post I would suggest setting down with Tony and discussing the pros and cons of aluminum vs. stainless for the hard top frame work. 34 Fitz Did she make 40Ks with those 800++ Yanmar ponies? 44 Henriques Just always been uneasy about wireless on things such as this or are you referring to a wired remote? 29 Oean the price is negotiable? The way it works: An existing Mako Marina customer refers a friend to become a NEW 2017-18 winter storage customer or a 2017 Mako slip customer and both will save 5% off slip or storage charges! This way you know when the anchor is about to the boat and you dont crash it into the pulpit. Think about it and talk to Tony. All great advice but for your budget, I would strongly suggest selling your existing boat and buying a 31 Bertram that is already converted to diesel. See how Kim Audas has repowered his with a single, MerCruiser 350HP inboard. Tons of work but the boat and the speed I was searching for turned out spot on with Tonys input on engineering the power train. by ranjr13 Dec 29th, '15, 16:00, Post Everything said on this post is true, all valid points. That is going to be quite a project. Now its a picnic boat on steroids, he says. And this free fall system seems to fail a lot. Im with you on the 370 choice. The exspolsion blew everybody in the water. 36 Chriscraft With questionable older small shafts, the money difference was relatively small in upgrading - at least it was for me. I had heard a number of stories about failed rebuilt long blocks from the major rebuilders. Here's a real-world example of successful repowering, using a boat that most of us lust after: The Bertram 31 of the 1960s and '70s is on almost every list of Best Boats Ever, so there's a lot of information available on performance when new. Any thoughts would be appreciated, as well as present day price info from any recent boats would be greatly appreciated. You have 454's and it's time to re-power: what option do you choose? She cruises at 26 knots and runs 31 WOT. patrick rudders. 25 Bertram 46 Bertram by Navatech Dec 29th, '15, 19:53, Post Being a fire captain in an area with a large harbor I have been on 6 boat Fires (in the water) in 19 years and many more in dry dock. Works really nice.. 2003 480CE Cooling Air Bleed/ Fuel Leak/Voltage Droop, StarCraft tachometer Error message Check engine battery, Reply To: remote oil filter and pressure relation, Reply To: StarCraft tachometer Error message Check engine battery, Marine Age the REAL age of a Marine Diesel Engine, Propellers Move Boats, Engines Just Turn Them, Everything you Need to Know About Marine Exhaust Systems, Continuous Duty A Different Perspective, This topic has 51 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated. Most of us have an opinion (usually a very strong one) about this iconic boat. by Hyena Love Sep 26th, '08, 10:37, Post Further modifications include a custom hardtop with several handholds, LED overhead lighting extended to ends of engine boxes and a custom safety raft mount on top below the marlin tower floor. Once we clear this hurdle, I will have to evaluate what accessories and cosmetic issues to address. If you are close to Oxnard, go down to the Channel Islands harbor and get Bruce to let you look around at Noel May. Seaboard Marine delivers Guaranteed Better Than Factory Performance, Parts, Design, and Engineering for Cummins and other Marine Diesel applications. I paid 30g for a Used set of 270s with about 150 hours on them, (engines, gears, struts and props) there are good deals if you take your time looking. the marinize version is a POS. The refrigerator has been replaced and all new cushions complete with overhead rod racks. when it come to personal opinion i have one in my boat as generator (MASE) my corp has four small 3000 watt portable generators but they are all L-9 motors same as john deere small tractors absolutely nothing to do with using a Toyota land cruiser engine marinize in a 31 Bertram.they have abandon there stp 315 hp completely as a matter of fact you could hold a complete cylinder head as a ransom actually worth as much as the rest of the entire motor due to customers with a engine that went down due to a drop valve will pay big bucks to get there boat back in water. by JP Dalik Sep 22nd, '08, 19:09, Post It is likely we have already repowered your exact vessel, see the list below. I will be calling you soon to discuss some specifics. Not that it really matters, I guess. My last boat, a BHM Downeast had a John Deere and it was great. All rights Reserved. Three years ago I rebuilt/repowered a 25 ft Terry Jason (Calvin Beal design) lobster boat. With the variety of Bertram 31 modifications out there, comes the inevitable debate who has done it best? | Understood on your plan. Marine and Boating Websites by YATCO BoatDeck, New 383 MAG Inboard 4V a perfect repower for all Bertram 28, 31 & 35s. 35 Bertram And many, probably most, have been modified, repowered, and renovated. The investment will be well worth it in 15-20 years. Here are some key points on the Priceless: Thrust, Power, and Fuel Consumption: She is powered by twin 315 HP Yanmar diesels that provide the push to cruise 27 knots at 3150; with 34 Knots at 3800 WOT. EGTs never exceed 700F-750F max at any rpm. 38 Holand What a great project and choice of engines ! I had at least 200 lbs of tools and other things on board too. exactly what you would expect from a company that use a converted gas engine to satisfy the small diesel market. I raise and lower the anchor from the bridge. Just a small remote about the size of a key fob for a car. There's plenty of Bertram and 25 Carribbean fly bridges arouns Australia. With the repower, handled by Florida Detroit Diesel-Allison, Fiddler moved from a 24-knot top speed to 34 knots, turning her into the more muscular dayboat the owner envisioned. Unbelievable original condition. Adding the cabin and bridge moved the CG orward of where C. Raymond Hunt intended it. The 31 Bertram began the deep v revolution, in many ways paving the way for offshore fishing to gain popularity. Participant Vessel Name: Patriot Engines: QSB 5.9 Location: Oxnard Country: United States I purchased a Bertram 31 FBC mid last year following multiple years of looking at various fishing boats. My reason for preferring the 330 HP motor is you simply dont need the added HP provided by the 370 (20 HP per side), and I assume you will be paying more for it. The Volvo gear that was in the lobster boat mated to an old 125 hp Volvo 40 was an 8 degree. Speeds are on the slower side but fuel consumption is great. Thanks for the comment on the 330B as that describes what type of engine I am looking for. Thanks, I am using a Lewmar windlass. I don't know how often you will be using your boat, but i put on 300 to 350 hours per season. I have 60 feet of chain followed by 340 ft. of rode. The yanmar's are a little more money but seem easier on the installation side and would reduce the cost. Not only is MerCruisers new 383 MAG Inboard 4V powerful and lightweight, it also comes. Priceless is equipped with oversized shafts swinging 1819 wheels. If you have a good shop nearby (I like speed shops--those guys know motors), you can have your 454s rebuilt for cheap, and have motors that are still really easy to work on and reliable. Bill. Any comments on one versus the other. I have Cummins and I question your guys saying its a more difficult installation and the need for more air for the Cummins. Since before Cummins Engine Company marinized their 6B 5.9 engine in the 1970s Mako Marina was a Cummins distributor and installing Cummins Engines. Just wrapping up my second year. When I disassembled my 25 I discovered there had been a small fire under the fuel tank, in the bilge. Hazleton: Independence. The packages include the helm station , controls , engine , transom shield , drive and the props are 1900 per pair. They didn't know how lucky they were. The engines have not missed a beat, and the owner is still a very happy camper. Note down under our fuel is much more expensive (currently $1.60 per litre) hence we tend to run less hp. One piece fore peak or deck 1 form core with about 2.5 of crown. From my post, I said "I'm looking at a 1980 with original 504's" and my concerns were if and when I needed to re-power, what today's thoughts are from the experts updated from 7 or 8 years ago when this thread started. scenarioL113 Senior Member Posts: 680 Joined: Sat May 31, 2008 2:00 pm Location: Massapequa Park, NY. My parameters for evaluating a refit lie at the intersection of three pieces of the puzzle: 1) Vision and good taste. And many, probably most, have been modified, repowered, and renovated. Like Dug said it was a service issue. Replacement Fly Bridge - Bertram 31: Home I purchased a Bertram 31 FBC mid last year following multiple years of looking at various fishing boats. With the 31 Bertram, you also eliminate all that used greasy bilge under the tank that is always a mess to deal with. Urbandale: DM - I-35/80 @ Meredith Dr (57) Saylor: DM - I-35 @ Corporate Woods DMS (37) Cedar Rapids: CR - I-380 @ 8th St NE (11) Pleasant Hill: DM - University Ave @ Hickory (46) Beverly Depot: CR - US 30 @ Williams Blvd SW (24) Council Bluffs: CB - 23rd Avenue . by mike ohlstein Jan 1st, '16, 10:48, Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 1 guest, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Water Faucets. 28792 | TEL: 305-743-0269 | FAX: Four centerline automatic bilge pumps keep everything dry. by bob lico Dec 30th, '15, 22:42, Post Dock Appeal: The boot stripe and house stripe blue were changed and painted in flag blue Awlgrip. I have trolled the various websites detailing project boats and have seen several that caught my eye and with Tonys input started to put together a project list to start the discussion on final project scope. by Dug Sep 23rd, '08, 08:06, Post I had a Lewmar windlass on my previous 31 Blackfin. A few things I have found. 46 Matthews I have seen several stainless supports like this crack after a few years of enduring the stressing of ocean fishing. by bertram 20 Jun 1st, '16, 16:50, Post I also own a 28 Henriques Sportfishing boat. Here's a heap of fit out, including fibreglass work, painting and what we thought was a massive disaster! Interestingly enough, the new John Deere equipment I run on land all have Yanmar engines and have never had one issue, and know several with Yanmars in marine application and all very happy. On a typical canyon run (65-70 miles each way), with a full day of trolling she burns 110-120 gallons. One regret we often hear from customers is when they sell their boat instead of repowering. I have a B28 with 250 Yanmars. Is the hard top and isinglass in the attached picture look something like what you want? by Tony Meola Dec 28th, '15, 22:19, Post Profile | Mechanical They are certainly not the same engines that shipped out of Charleston 15 years ago! The engine boxes are covered with blue/white striped cushions with four inches of heavy-duty foam, extra insulation added. The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly. by bob lico Dec 29th, '15, 08:57, Post WOW! Plus it sounds like your going to keep your 31 for a long time. one of five need new cylinder head ,Atlantic city has 6, Beval engine builders have four.and Mack Boring the east coast distributors said "Goodnight Dick" no not personal opinion. by Tony Meola Sep 23rd, '08, 20:24, Post And the stainless. Hi all, I'm tossing the idea around of repowering my 1970 31 Bertram Bahia Mar. They are making excellent progress and have really cleaned up the under deck area and engine compartments. 42 Provincial If you have any notable resplashes that youd like to see in the magazine, send us a note and some pictures: [emailprotected] ITB. 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