Yeah, the memories I have of that day are hazy I was only five. I appreciated your comments. I remember hearing a loud screaming sound. I now know. Also just recently read from another site that indeed coach Vardanien was there to help the wounded and later would be my PE teacher at Poly and a track coach at Poly. killing all 128 aboard on both of . The most vivid memory I have of that day was of my moms worry (her husband and daughter were at Pacoima JH that day). In fact, Paul and my father were colleagues during the 50s when dad taught at Pacoima. Im now 63, born in 1952. We had to get under our desks. We lived near by on Gain Street and I went to Kindergarten at Beachy Avenue School. I dont remember hearing the explosion but I ran over to the windows and remember seeing the black smoke and a lot of debris twirling in the air. I am 75 years old now and still remember incident vividly,,it is so tragic that I believe it is something one never forgets. Mondaire Jones The ousting of two Black Democrats from the Tennessee House of Representatives makes clear that the US urgently needs to salvage and rebuild a true multiracial democracy. As you are probably aware, many credit your father for managing to avoid nearby buildings and preventing a much larger calamity. office next to the gym field when the plane went down, thought it was a nuclear attack, as well. The first time I regained consciousness I was in a room with Lloyd Hopkins. His sister and the rest of the Boyd/Brann family remember him with love. Wouldnt happen in this day and age. I apologize for being off-topic. the Harringtons were between us. Just a quick note, Russ. In 1957 a mid air collision over Pacoima Junior High killed 5 crew members, 3 children and injured 78. Of the many times I have related the story to people through the years, my most vivid recall has been of the line in Lindas commencement speech about having only one life to live. I also remember seeing ceiling tiles falling and hanging lamps swaying back and forth. Russ, If you mean Pacoima Junior, I saw it a few years ago and it still looks like the fine learning institution we knew. I looked up into the sky towards Pacoima Jr. High. At Every high school reunion we have a pre-party on Friday night and all of the men/boys sit around the table and tell their stories about that day. She was in the church office with her 18-month-old daughter, Kathy. Both of my younger sisters attended the elementary school next door to Pacoima Junior High. It seems like the majority of people who witnessed the crash and/or its aftermath developed the same fear. He got doused with boiling hot oil from the plane. I offer my best wishes to all who shared this experience. Fortunately, you ran in the right direction. Terry Brown (916)364 0440). Come to find out, with the exception of me, all were native Southern Californians. Thanks. I am sure readers here will appreciate your familys story and the brave and loving actions of your mother on that day. I still remember some of the kids in my classes like Craig Bentley, Walter Gorse, Jeff Abraham, Pam Gates, Scott Roberts, Suzanne Maltz, Dennis Liff, Jim Roubal, As far as teachers, I remember Mr. Marto, Mrs. Oshatz, Mrs. Stowsky and I believe it was Mr. Praglin who taught class and kept his pack of cigarettes in his front shirt pocket. Do not know which branch. I was in the 9th grade in the orchestra practicing in the auditorium when this happened. Another living witness. 55 years later and we who were there are drawn back to the memory. Hillery Broadous. I do still live in the Valley, but far from good old Beachy. Since I was in and out of consciousness I dont have memories that connect until Ray Lafinier (as I recall we called him Skip) were racing up and down the halls in wheelchairs. Archie Raymond Twitchell (November 28, 1906 - January 31, 1957) was a pilot for over three decades between the 1920s and the 1950s. My brother passed away many years ago, so I cant talk to him about it. I was 6 years old at that time and I still have my class photos of May 1956 and 1957 if anyone is interested. . comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment . I saw many students injuries on that day. Amazingly, a program in the school auditorium was being recorded, and the sounds of the crash can be heard here, as well as some eye-witness []. Indeed, I owe a very heartfelt thanks to your dad my sister and dad were in the classrooms, and my mother and I were in one of the houses. Like Randal said, I did not know where it crashed till I got home. I was only five when the plane came down and remember very little of that day, despite the fact that my big sister and my dad were on campus when it happened. [] event can be seen here. I saw it all and it has haunted me all my life. I can picture Raymond Eaker, as well. Love, Thanks for commenting, Anthony. I am devastated by the deaths and injuries but so thankful that there were not more. I can only imagine moms reaction to Pams account of the crash. Hope this clears up a question of rotary ect. Do you remember a little girl who lived across the street named Nancy? (LogOut/ Many whove commented here have told about the deep and lasting scars on their psyches from having witnessed the crash. I remember seeing a couple of kids from the junior high that were lingering by the fence in the field. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Rebecca Grant Polish activist Justyna Wydrzyska is the first woman in Europe to be convicted of intent to aid an abortion. Windows and room walls were rattling and shaking. as I watched the plane falling from the sky finally losing sight as it fell behind the mountain. But, there was also a lot of humanity and caring for others on that day, as well. I had forgotten that John Buchanan was her father. Im sure you know that your dad has been commended by many for his heroic action during his final moments, guiding the airplane toward the small swath of green that was the gym field thereby avoiding the surrounding classrooms and residential areas. She mentioned a couple of children by name (sadly I made no note of them). My name is Terry Brown. 1 February 1957; Page 11; San Bernardino Sun, Volume 63, Number 132, 1 February 1957 Page 11. . It seems just about everybody who witnessed the crash, including you and my sister, developed a lifelong discomfort with flying. We couldnt get any further than the chain link fence surrounding the school. From one Poly High alum to another: Thanks for your perspective on that day. And Larry Bakken. Stephanie Hoenig Reifsnyder. First, when I was in the room with Lloyd Hopkins he told me we were running to get behind the handball wall. Its unusual enough to meet a fellow native Southern Californian these days, let alone four all connected in some way to the crash. But the recording captured the sound it made as if it were yesterday. On that particular day, I was home with a cold. I cannot tell you how the events of that day and this recording have stayed with me all these days. Note from Russ Buchanan to those who were there: Pacoima Jr. High alum Terry Brown, who was badly injured in the crash but has never been able to recall what happened that day, would like to speak to anyone who has a recollection of the events especially someone who might have some idea of what happened to him. I was young and that is all I know. As I lost view of the plane, a few seconds later I saw a huge ball of flames and black smoke rise into the air. I lived on Daventry street and attended Telfair Avenue School. What Buchanans recording ultimately captured that morning was the sound of a tragedy. Thanks for sharing the audio. If that is what you have, it is miraculous that it survived this many years, and it happened to be recording that very minute. Hi Russ.who knows? I am sure she did this out of pure fear and not knowing what to expect. I finished 3rd grade there. Good to hear from a neighbor I lived in one of the very nearby tract homes and was always impressed by houses like yours, with the gigantic yards and big ranch-style houses. On that day I was in 4th grade and in my classroom when we all heard the DC-7. I think you lived near me we were on Obeck Ave, between Kagel Cyn. HE PLAYED DURING LUNCH AND WHEN EVER ANY ONE WOULD LISTEN. Ill go check out Mayday. Sounds like a good idea. Terry Brown, I am so happy that Terry Brown was contacted by Gary through your website! When the plane hit I was running. Im a cousin of Ronnie Brann who lost his life that day. (sp) Street? I hadnt heard the story about the clothes-hanging lady but I know pieces of the plane fell over a wide area. My job was to help families deal with severe emotional and behavioral issues that were keeping them in the cycle of poverty, substance abuse, crime, etc. He and his family were members of the Pacoima Congregational Church. Ill check some of the comments and my correspondence for some other likely candidates. Paul Morse, who passed away a few years ago, was a very close friend of my family. . I would like to talk with anyone who has memories of the crash because I dont. Three died: Ronnie Brann, 13; Robert Zallan, 12; and Evan Elsner, 12. PACOIMA Deadly 1957 Plane Crash into Pacoima, California Schoolyard 20,447 views Mar 27, 2022 2.5K Dislike Share Save History Hunters 85K subscribers Jeff takes this episode of History. Im wondering if I had him as a teacher. Killed in the crash were three Pacoima students, the pilot of the F-89 and the four-man crew of the DC-7, whose final words to traffic control were, Uncontrollablewere spinning over the Valley. This Incident Command System has spread from the west coast to the east. I knew that they were going to have to clean more than the fence. Yeah, the Pacoima crash touched so many people. Over by a demolished backstop, a burned and mangled crewmember was still strapped to a chair, his death stare looking out at the carnage that was all around. What caused the plane to break apart must have been due to extreme speed going down and turning in all directions. . I remember seeing the hole in the field. He played it for us once. Thanks to Gary and Russ. I looked up and to this day could swear that some one in the nose of that spinning plane was waving their arms. He said something about getting back to the Base because he hadnt checked out. My mother and friends mother were in the auditorium as well. Then I dont remember anything until I woke up again and the first person I was was Coach DeGroot at the foot of my bed. My mother was 36 yrs old and she promised my brother and I that she would try to keep the house so we could finish school with our friends. I posted a comment on Russ Buchanans website some time ago asking anyone who was on the field that day to contact me. When I started in the fire service everyone was expected to just suck it up, and as many of you know, its not easy!. (But that may be memory modification over the years). For some god-forsaken reason, my mother scooped me and a my baby brother up, and we headed for the sight of the explosion. We raced toward Terra Bella Elementary School where my brother, Jimmy, was a first or second grader. Then and Now column in Sunday's California section about a collision between a fighter jet and a transport plane over Pacoima in 1957 incorrectly stated that the accident generated more. It is perfect as the scenario is an air crash. He mentioned that he used to pick me up at the same spot each day and that on that day part of the landing gear from the plane landed in the same spot. I was in the 6th grade at Beachy Ave. At Beachy, I remember being in the classes of Mrs. Oshatz and Mr. Marto. My father and sister were both on the Pacoima campus when it happened my dad as a teacher and my sister Pam as a thirteen year-old student (it was her birthday). I lived on Obeck Ave (off Kagel, between Beachy and Canterbury) in what was originally called Pacoima, but later became Arleta for no apparent reason. I was never sure if that was true or if it was just dads way of getting me to quit the band I was in at the time. By the way, in the audio recording you have, to me it sounds like the school official is saying: It was a jet blast. This is so weird, I just happened to be thinking of that air plane crash tonite and I thought Id look up to see if there was anything about it on the internet and boom, Russell Buchanan name popped up, I do believe we were good friends at age 5, I may even have a pic of you and I playing together, Ill look later and send sometime. Were you afraid of planes because of that event? She lived right on across the street from the school. Russ What does the school look like now? lided over the Grand Canyon. Another part of the story is that Russ and our mom had been at the Pacoima Congregational Church, just next door to PJH, earlier that morning. She said the plane crash and the neighborhood were in the movie. Not long after that we moved to Northern California. Both escaped injury. [1][2][3], The DC-7B, which was earmarked for delivery to Continental Airlines, took off from the Santa Monica Airport at 10:15a.m. on its first functional test flight, with a crew of four Douglas personnel aboard. Jan. 31, 1957 was a tragic day in the northern San Fernando Valley. As you can see from the comments here, you are not alone. I heard no crash and saw no smoke. My mother, Pauline Taylor, covered the story as a reporter for the Pacoima Post. I remember discussing in class what had just happened, what we had just whiteness. Debris on the Pacoima Junior High School Athletic Field A few minutes after 11:00 AM on January 31, 1957, teacher John Buchanan began recording the graduation ceremony being held for 800 students gathered in the San Fernando Valley's Pacoima Junior High School auditorium. It has helped my recollection of the events on January 31,1957. I knew Evan well. My Great Uncle Mike aka Mike Galasso was in this. The tragedy gained national notoriety when angry Pacoima parents successfully petitioned officials to prohibit future test flights over populated areas. What I saw Ill never forget. Two students were struck and killed by this wreckage and debris. Adams injuries were not critical and he was able to eject. Thanks for your recollection of that day. I read the reports and listened to your Dads tape. I was afraid that survivors who had been trying their whole lives to get passed that day would be plunged right back in it by hearing the sounds again. I didnt look up, but I remember the horrible loud sound, like nothing natural, and then the crash and the earth shook. I asked where this was and she said, Pacoima Junior High School. Then she just started talking. A part of the plane actually did land in the middle of the church, but no one was hurt. A little detour here. Hi Marilyn, I too remember you! She scooped me up and put me in the backseat of the car. I was sitting at a lunch bench at Montague Street School when I heard a shrill screaming sound that would simulate a missile. I read that the school does not have any kind of monnoument or something about the accident, which i think is a shame, couse even though such memories are hard to remember i think they should be remembered for the safety of children in the future, i think the school should definitely not just try to push the memories away and try to forget, because. If there is anyone else, please call me. We lived on Varna Ave., 1.25 miles from Pacoima Junior High. He came to the School right after the crash. It was more information than I had ever heard about. Thanks for writing and for having terrific ears. I was at school in La Crescenta doing sit ups out in our school field when we all saw smoke and the planes falling right after impact. THE REHERSAL FOR GRADUATION WAS GOING ON IN THE AUDITORIUM, ANY OTHER STUDENTS RELATED TO THE GRADUATES THAT ATTENDED PJH, WERE INVITED TO THE REHERSAL CEREMONY, INCLUDING PARENTS, THEY WERE ANNOUNCING AWARDS DURING THIS TIME, OUR SCHOOL WAS ON ASSEMBLY SCHEDULE, WHICH IT MENT CLASSES WERE CHANGED ABIT. Sometimes people there go from one video to another suggestion, and that will help reach out to many people who were not even searching it up in the first place. Thank you for posting the recording. Recently, I added the story of the Pacoima Junior High School plane crash, and profiled the eight people who were killed, using newspaper archives and websites like yours to tell their stories. Even though it was many years ago and I was very young, my memory is so vivid it takes people by surprise. Here it is in 2012 and we still talk about it. I suppose the single most interesting aspect of this story and the recording is how many people were, as you put it, haunted their entire lives by this tragedy. Did you live on OBeck or Oback??? I couldnt tell from your message if you saw her there or not. Russ, I also knew Pam. The most incredible image of all was the open window in the cockpit area with smoke coming out of it and what appeared to be the pilot with his head partially out. The auditorium doors can be heard slamming open from the concussion of the crash. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B operated by Douglas Aircraft Company was involved in a mid-air collision with a United States Air Force Northrop F-89 Scorpion and crashed into the schoolyard of Pacoima Junior High School located in Pacoima, a suburban area in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles . The first kid to see it saw the impact flash. I cannot imagine what a horrifying experience that mustve been for anyone who was near the school at the time, and thank you for giving the people who were there a chance to discuss their memories, and perhaps find a way to deal with what must certainly be terrible memories of that day. The plane crash last month wasn't the first for Pacoima residents. Today. I was also worried about them. I was 5 years old. Thank you for your kind words about dad. To the cousin of Ronnie Brann. Coincidentally enough, my sister told me on the phone yesterday that she attended the San Fer reunion with her chum, Carol Crockett (maiden name). Where are the pictures of this event? The last transmission from the co-pilot was from Archie Twitchell, an uncle of mine. I know its a little late to join the conversation but I felt compelled to share my memories of this horrific event. {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 .. All events are portrayed in historical context and for educational purposes. Actually, very little labor but a lot of love. I returned to Beachy at the very end of my sixth grade (following a semester at Lowman School for the Handicapped). How do you know youre having a horrible experience? I lived on Obeck, which was situated between Terra Bella and Kagle Canyon (north-south) and Canterbury and Beachy (east-west) so I was pretty far from the school and dont remember hearing anything unusual. In an odd twist of fate, a few years ago, I met a friend for a drink and there were 3 other patrons and the bar tender at the bar. I guess the real though posthumous thanks for this post should go to my dad, who kept the tape in such good shape for so many years. Bill Ritchie, Photo no longer up, but I made paper photo copy of picture and sent to wordpress.com website for research purposes. The horror of what happened that day comes through clearly in this recording. Joseph, I knew your great uncle, Vito Galasso. I turned around to see all the debri in the air. I too was adjacent to the junior HS. Some Pacoima residents have been traumatized by the Whiteman Airport since the plane collision over Pacoima Junior High in 1957. This site has confirmed my memories of the crash. At first it looked like one plane and its landing gear then as they got closer we could see it was two planes, then we saw the parachute. Russ, I just tried again and was able to play the clip with no trouble. Regarding Ritchie Valens friend: there seems to be some dispute as to whether one of the victims was Valens best friend. As I looked out the window, almost instantly people came from nowhere. Im sure she would have loved to see you and the photo. Id like to think that in his and the others final moments, a kind of calm acceptance came over them. My sister, who was a friend of Evan Elsners, told me today that our parents, John and Eleanor Buchanan, attended Ronnies memorial service. Mark Boone,David Jones and of course Ritchie Vallens (Richard Vallenswella) made our 9th grade year full of music..they would entertain us at lunch time.we were happy young people! Then it became a deadly trap, New York woman driven to wrong address is fatally shot by homeowner, The actor, the hairstylist and the eye surgeon: Drugs and death in a Malibu beach house, Have guests in town? I really even though im born 1993 and that is like many decades after the crash, i really feel horrible after searching about it and especially after seeing the photos of the 3 victims. My classroom was located adjacent to the fence that separated the two schools. Yes, like so many others this event is seared into my mind even though I witnessed it from 4 miles away and wasnt exposed to the terror and carnage that so many others were. Our department decided to host a mass causality drill. I can clearly picture Mr. Martos rotund face. Oh my God this is something horrible, and i cannot even imageine the horror people who experienced the plane crash went through. well the show did an episode covering the collision between a f-4b of the usmc and hughes airwest 706 a dc-9 in 1971 and from the animation it must have horrible as the dc-9 come down like a falling leaf till impact with mount bliss, i honestly wonder to myself if we take how safe flying is today for granted cause an accident like this has becoming very rare nowadays with tcas and improved radars. Hi, Alan July 12, 1963: Curtiss A. Adams, the only man to survive the Jan. 31, 1957, crash of an F-89J and a DC-7B over Pacoima, testifies in a lawsuit between Douglas, which made the transport, and Northrop, which built the F-89J. He now lives in Boulder City, NV. Wow, what a prance down memory lane. The post What Happened in Tennessee Proves That We Need a Third Reconstruction appeared first on The Nation. It was horrible . 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