Xero has better toe protection, a tough material wraps around the whole toe end of the shoe. I give the mens TerraFlex a mixed review. Weight: 10 oz Internal lining is quite soft, yet robust. Abrasion resistance seems descent. One would assume this would make for a more durable shoe - but to be fair, I havent subjected the TerraFlex to the same amount of miles as the Mesa Trails. With a large loyal following, Xero shoes have become a household name among barefooters, providing shoes boots and sandals for every occasion. Because the Mesa Trail is aimed at the performance-based lightweight market, the thin materials mold perfectly around the foot, offering a sock-like feeling. They're currently the two trail runners I'm most interested in. I bought the TerraFlex II a few months ago and found them super comfortable for my wide feet. Post new content to the community including gear swaps, reviews, trip reports and more! https://barefootrunreview.com/vivobarefoot-primus-trail-ii-fg-review/, Your email address will not be published. The wide toe box lets my foot return to its more natural shape after too many years in tight-toed pumps. Because your foot is locked down to the sole, your foot doesnt slip around as a sandal would, and you can be confident that it will stay there as soon as you plant your foot on the ground. They look like a generic chinese shoe with the quality of a water shoe. Wide throughout (slightly wider than Vivobarefoot). I also like the laces on the Mesa better, they are round laces as apposed to flat laces on the Lone Peak, and they aren't obscenely long like the Lone Peak. On my Mesa Trail shoes, the failure has stopped at the outer layer of mesh. I tested the TerraFlex concurrently to the Mesa Trail, so I could get an accurate idea of how each shoe stood against the other. I do own their minimalist Genesis sandal and Z-trail sandals, but they are a completely different use case. On top of that, the minimal foam in the Terraflex II was packed out, and the ridge of the seem was exposed. The Terraflex II is made with durability and protection in mind, and the thick overlays contribute to a stiffer, more secure fit. Despite being a US size 9, it fits me quite well. Compared to them, the Terraflex is heavier, much bulkier, stiffer, and has worse traction. Around the same time, I learned that the handful of trail races Id registered for were also canceled. Its one of the most recent additions to the Xero Shoes line-up and the design has benefited from everything the company has learned from feedback to their previous models. But to find all of these features in the same shoe is rare. Stack Height: 17 mm, Vibram Womens FiveFingers V-Trail 2.0 In this review, I will go over the basics of the Xero Shoes Mesa Trail and the Xero Shoes Terraflex II, highlight the key differences, and explain the different situations in which these shoes excel. Many hear about overpronation and expect that they need a well-structured shoe to correct pronation. How do the Xero Mesas compare to the Merrell Trail Gloves? With all this talk of rigid upper materials and durable outsoles, you may wonder if the flexibility has been lost. Since this is a Limited Review, a detailed performance analysis based on long-term use will not be presented. When it comes to minimal trail running shoes, there arent many options on the market. I asked him how he made such a durable shoe for such a small weight penalty. With both shoes having a 5000-mile sole guarantee, youd expect both outsoles to be similar. I loathethe lifespan of average trail runners, a mileage that seems to be ticking ever downwards as materials get lighter. Use standard sizing-up procedures to account for foot swellings on long hikes. I fully admit the shoe doesnt look as sleek as other trail shoe brands like the Vivobarefoot Primus Trail or even the Xero Shoes Mesa Trail (very fun, very minimal! I get about 200 miles per pair of MT10s backpacking and trail running. Cookie Notice Xero has better toe protection, a tough material wraps around the whole toe end of the shoe. This strapping system allows Xero Shoes to fit many different foot shapes and achieve a great lockdown for both wide and narrow feet. The second common failure point in trail runners is compression and breakdown of the midsole. Watch for the Terraflex II insoles and midsole packing out. The outsole is a tad thicker than its sibling, the Mesa Trail. Some (but not all) of the links in this article may be affiliate links. If your feet are low in volume or not too wide, you should look at other brands. But the TerraFlex II comes into its own when dancing down rocky, technical trails. Embedded TrailFoam layer and adjustable tension straps for added protection and stability. For the Terraflex, Ive managed to continue with a ripped forefoot, but the separation in the Mesa Trails meant I had to buy another pair. Unfortunately, all this means I have not tested these shoes to the degree that I normally would have. However in Altras I feel much more 'disconnected' from the surface I am walking on and as a result will be less dexterous and sometimes my ankle will even roll because of the height of the shoe, which is not the case with the Vivos. You can find him onInstagram,Twitter, and at hiswebsite. To learn more, please visit the About This Site page. Overall, the shoe fits well throughout. It fits great, but how does it feel on the trail? You did not feel cold? Trail running in the Mesa Trail is an absolute dream. The toebox doesn't feel as roomy as Xero Primal or Lems Prio, and when I walk around town in the Mesa Trail, my left 4th toe goes numbI think the lacing is pressing down on the top of my foot somewhere. Meaning there's less freedom in barefoot movement. Be more. Theres not much heel or ankle support in the Xero Terraflex but its a minimal shoe so I wouldnt expect it. Extremely comfortable, softer insole than most barefoot shoes. I'm wondering if there are equally non-obvious benefits with minimalist shoes, as I've never really tried them for hiking. Ive switched to Xero Mesas with Superfeet Trailblazer insoles. Thanks. Aside from the size discrepancy, the overall shape of the shoes are similar. First Impressions: Sean - Black men's US 9, Looks like a typical hiking shoe/trail runner. To further back up Xero Shoes confidence, the outsole has a 5000-mile guarantee. I couldnt wait to get my feet in a pair. What is the most important aspect of a running shoe for you? First, they are super lightweight. The insole can be removed to feel more minimalistic since there isn't a strong ground feel due to the thicker outer sole. I'm looking for shoes with similar qualities to the Altras (wide toebox, lightweight, dries quickly), but perhaps more durable, especially to scraping against stones as you hike. Cushioning and rock protection is horrible. The injuries eventually dissipated and Steven began producing barefoot sandals, based on huarache styled sandals, similar to those worn by the Tarahumara Indians in Mexico's Copper Canyon. Its worth noting a few things here. At just 8.2oz for a men's size 9, the Mesa Trail II is even lighter than the original. Is it acceptable to have shoe breakdown so quickly? Xero Terraflex - Women's - $99.99. I feel way more secure on my feet. They also have enough protection and sturdiness on the upper, and the sole, to make a great multi season camping/outdoors shoe. In fact, some amount of pronation is expected and is an essential shock absorption mechanism. Too much or too little ground feel? This topic has 6 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated. The adjustable midfoot and instep straps hug this trail runner snugly to your foot. I think Im going to make an edit to the post to highlight these issues. Altra vs Topo Athletic Which foot-shaped shoe suits you? You can expect some achiness in the arches, ankles, soles, calves, etc. It is soft, comfortable, and feels quite cushioned due to its foam sole. As a comparison, I also performed the test with 3 other shoes. Do the Mesas have the same shape inside? Horrible for walking. Our premium articles include in depth journalism and insights from the Backpacking Light editorial team. I also like the laces on the Mesa better, they are round laces as apposed to flat laces on the Lone Peak, and they aren't obscenely long like the Lone Peak. Its very rare that you can have a breathable material thats also waterproof, the science just doesnt work. Almost forget, Mesa dries out decades before the Lone Peak. MSRP: $80 With a full wrap-around toe box (actually, the wrap-around covers the whole shoe is it still a toe box at that point?) Press J to jump to the feed. Meaning theres less freedom in barefoot movement. Goodbye heavy Chacos, hello minimalism. Prevention is always better than a cure. You'll get both road and trail options based on your answers! You're currently viewing a free preview of a member exclusive premium article. 1mm difference in the rubber outsole, 0.5mm difference in the lug length, and no difference in the 3mm foam. Well, Im here to tell you it feels much different. There is enough padding to mitigate any issue with sensitive feet. With a sturdy protective toe box on the Mesa Trail and Terraflex II, the structure holds the toebox high above your toes to offer, freeing wiggle room. If I keep these shoes, I will probably replace them with some thinner, more user friendly laces. The only other option Id suggest is the Vivobarefoot Primus trail? Its relatively easy to find a trail runner with a zero-drop heel. On the other hand, with the TerraFlex upper, you gain a gratifyingly secure feeling. The same goes for a low stack height, a wide toe-box, a minimalist sole (no rock plate or similar features), a moderate tread, a low weight, or a well-designed lacing system. The Xero Terraflex has a zero drop from heel to toe. Weight: 12 oz More force will travel through the body when running in the TerraFlex compared to the Mesa Trail or Primus Trail, which may impact specific overuse injuries in the knees, hips, and beyond. I assume that whoever wrote the headline thought that the shoes weighed 8.5 oz for the pair but your review is clear in saying that this is per shoe. Weight. You say they have similar lugs - do you think they protect against stepping on rocks as the Altras? We can see here that the Terraflex II acts more like the cushioned Superior. r/Ultralight is the largest online Ultralight Backcountry Backpacking community! My ankle was rolling further inwards in the higher cushioned shoes and at a faster rate. The thin, durable toe cap and tough sidewall welding . The shoes are relatively deep. You'll get both road and trail options based on your answers! Something that many runners suffer from, due to running in shoes with elevated heels. I agree that the fat laces are a bit of a pain. Use the links below to share this content: Viewing 7 posts - 1 through 7 (of 7 total), New Masterclass! MSRP: $119.99 Be cautious if this is your first foray into minimalist shoes and start slowly. Nice deep and moderately wide toe boxes. You have entered an incorrect email address! Take a quick 5-question quiz to identify the perfect minimal running shoe for your feet! The Mesa Trail is a new product, while the TerraFlex was updated in the last two years. In most shoes I've come across, a men's US8 converts to an EU 42, whereas with Xero it converts to an EU 41. @tjaard I havent noticed anything of that sort, but then again the terraflex doesnt bother me for walking either. The toe box is wide and fits my average sized feet well. Sara did not feel there was enough room in the toe box area since hers felt a half size too small. Be sure to inspect the product before returning, and include the original packing materials. Unrestricted access to all forums, plus the ability to post and start new threads. Second they hug my narrow heel beautifully. Product(s) discussed in this article may have been purchased by the author(s) from a retailer or direct from a manufacturer, or by Backpacking Light for the author. The Terraflex also comes in a womens version so check them out in the Xero Shoes storeif youre interested. Theyre advertised as a hiking shoe and thats what Ive been using them for. Ok maybe not decades, and I haven't actually timed it, but it seems like they don't soak up as much water and also dry quicker, so you are less uncomfortable for less time. That rubber piece has split and no longer holds the strap so the strap is now floating at the top of the shoe at my ankle. To put it simply, if you were only going to buy one minimal trail shoe, Id tell you to buy the TerraFlex II. After 4.5 months of trail running between 3-6hrs a week there are holes around the toes through the outer mesh, and now holes are appearing in the inner mesh too. Does the Terraflex have any water resistance that would keep my feet a little more dry? Xero Shoes has made a visible effort to streamline the fit of their product line, but its worth noting that they recommend choosing size larger for the Mesa Trail. The ground feel is much better, but it still offers enough protection. I am an affiliate with Xeroshoes (links above) and may receive compensation for referrals, but ONLY because I already love their shoes. Prefer my Vivos for trips of less than a week. Ive tried a TON of shoes and Mesas are definitely the best suited to any 3 season terrain from sloppy mud to dusty dry to pointy stones toe breakers, Mesas do well in all. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The womens Terraflex shoes come in the same two colour schemes. The TerraFlex is twenty dollars cheaper. Because the midsole of the Mesa Trail is a dense 3 mm EVA foam, it holds up well to repeated compression but adds very little weight to the shoe. No blisters!). Ive paired the Mesa Trails with waterproof socks for running and backpacking in the winter and early spring, and although they are functional for these kinds of trips, there are perhaps better options available. But Ive found the Mesa Trail to have a much softer rubber and wear much quicker. I measured the Lone Peak at 22oz for the pair, and the Mesa Trail at just under 16oz for the pair. The problem with having such a flexible outsole though is that youre going to lack some cushioning. A low stack height, mesh uppers, and moderate tread keeps the shoe light, while welded components and smart design make it surprisingly durable. Fill in your details to find out your perfect barefoot shoe. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); When wearing running shoes, do you have any recurring issues with the following area(s) of your foot? How would that work and what are the better options? Mesh upper failing just behind instep on both sides of each shoe (after 450 miles / 723 km). The toe cap isnt reinforced but it will protect your toes from most things. if i had to choose between the two, i'd go with the altras, at least you should at least get more miles out of them. Youll see double stitching in hard-wearing areas, and the exposed fabric is a tough multi-layered weave, so no worries of premature breakdown there. The Xero Terraflex is a very minimal shoe with the goal of helping you run as naturally as possible. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Well, yes, thats true. The mesh just behind the instep on both feet failed (on either side of the foot). There is still plenty of room in there after my feet expand during longer runs. I love the mesa trail. Much of my hiking is covered on my website - westcoasthikergirl.com. This benefit is further enhanced by the Mesa Trails, where the super flexible materials hug the foot like a sock. Fits okay. Happy Trails!! To perform the analysis, I use University grade measurement pods to estimate ground reaction force, peak impact force, pronation angle/speed, and much more. A low stack height, mesh uppers, and moderate tread keeps the shoe light, while welded components and smart design make it surprisingly durable. Ive got no doubt that the Terraflex outsole will continue far past the Mesa Trail. I dont pretend to love them because Im an affiliate (as you can tell from other brutal reviews)___My go to MINIMALIST Shoe Companies (*Affiliate Links, I may receive compensation for referrals)Xeroshoes: https://bit.ly/3b9AlhP Earthrunners: https://bit.ly/2V6Fh1aVivobarefoot: http://tidd.ly/81506e15 ___Follow us on Social:https://www.instagram.com/movementtrainingco/ https://www.facebook.com/MovementTrainingCo/ Track: Move KV [Audio Library Release]Music provided by Audio Library PlusWatch: https://youtu.be/mQm340YnF2wFree Download / Stream: https://alplus.io/move If I was designing a shoe, I too would start from this very basis of thought. Join us and ask yourself the question: Do I really need that? Want something more burly than a trail runner? Although I sang the praises of the straps in the Fit section, these straps are thin and exposed. I have the Xero Z-Trails and, while I like those sandals for everyday, they are not great for all/most hiking situations (grip, thin sole, need toe protection). Andrew Marshall is the former Managing Editor and Podcast Producer of Backpacking Light. Altra Womens Vanish XC The TerraFlex has 4 mm lugs, while the Mesa Trail has 3.5 mm lugs. I just switched to the Mesa Trail from the Lone Peak 4. But bare in mind that I pounded these shoes on the rough Colorado Trail with my body weight + a pack. The toebox materials and overlays are stiff and more durable than you may expect. I also recently got Altra Superior 4my first nonminimalist shoe in two years. Third roomy toe box, but deep from top to bottom. Connects to a rubber piece at the bottom. Affiliate Disclosure: By clicking through the links on this page and purchasing the products, youll be helping me out. https://barefootrunreview.com/xero-shoes-mesa-trail-ii-review/, Stack Height: 3 mm + 6.5 mm outsole rubber. We visit and work with our factories multiple times per year. Both shoes use the Huarache-inspired design. Its a much better build with welded overlays in the weaker areas. Very flexible, takes getting used to. I made a mistake buying these but at least I got them at a discount so Im not out a hundred dollars. Im not afraid to admit that my motivation went down the toilet. Still, its not quite as floppy and forgiving as some sandals or even the Xero Shoes Mesa Trail. I enjoy both shoes, but the Mesa Trails flexibility wins out on nearly every run. To be clear, I haven't walked trails in these shoes, so take my impressions with that qualification. This is because all through life, youre brain has been trained to account for that elevated heel which is built into so many shoes on the market. I took the Terraflex shoes out on the Colorado Trail with me, where I moved for 30 miles daily. Sara's foot is 25cm long and 9.5cm wide and is an EU 39 or US 8 in most brands and tried the Terraflex 2 in a US 8 EU 38.5. The main improvement I would recommend is more sizing consistency among their different shoes models and to provide a sizing guide or template on their site. If you rely on the cushion of your Lone Peaks, then probably not. Thank you for supporting Backpacking Light! Stack Height: Total stack height 9mm: 2.5mm FeelTrue Sole + 4mm Lugs + 2.5mm Strobel (Optional 3mm Removable Insole Provided), Weight: Mens 9 is 252g or 8.9 ounces each, Sizes available: MENS US: 6.5-13, 14, 15 | WOMENS US: 5-12 (whole/half). Opt for the Terraflex II. The buyer pays the same price as they would otherwise, and your purchase helps to support The Trek's ongoing goal to serve you quality backpacking advice and information. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); When wearing running shoes, do you have any recurring issues with the following area(s) of your foot? If youve read my reviews before, you might know that I like to perform a quick gait analysis of myself running in the shoes. It makes for an exceptional shoe for daily errands, rugged activities, or for transitioning into barefoot shoes. When I was training for an Ultra, I was hitting that in less than a month, and with the Colorado Trail Ive just completed, that was weeks. They essentially guarantee that your shoes will last way beyond the replacement recommendations of most other performance shoe companies. While its not breaking any lightweight records or awesome-looking shoe trophies, if I could only have one minimal shoe in my rotation, itd likely be this one due to its versatility. Yes, I agree with the privacy policy and terms and conditions.And please send me newsletters! I destroyed a few pair of Altra LPs on long hikes. I went with my true EU42 size which by them was a US 9 instead of getting my usual US 8 since that was a Xero EU 41. You had mentioned that you used these in winter together with waterproof socks. Xero Shoes knew that needed to change, so they released 2 completely different trail options. If you took the Mesa Trails on rugged trails, you might find it a little uncomfortable. First of all, theres no toe-cap glued to the front of the shoe. If youve read reviews about the Mesa Trail, youll know they fit small. Pack less. You feel all rocks and anything beneath your feet, but not in a bad way. The Mesa Trail is wider than a conventional running shoe with a toe box that more accurately mimics the shape of your feet. many (running) shoes have this, but in that case its the outsole. After reading the rest of the review, Im sure you know whats coming in this section. Original post below. If youre dead set on training your barefoot gait and know that the trails you hit are smooth and sandy, then the TerraFlex II may not be the shoe for you. I hike most in the Eastern Sierra, where I happen to be located, so it's almost all hard-packed, granite, and a lot of granite stones on the local trails. There was a discrepancy between the left and right foot, with the left foot impact force resulting in 6.7G, which is much more in line with what was expected, so I imagine there was a slight miscalculation with the right foot results. What did you think? The Mesa Trail is a truly minimalist shoe with no cushy foam padding or arch support. Not sure I'm into the Daylite Hiker Fusion, but curious about all three of the aforementioned shoes for hiking and some trail running. Do you find that the Xero trail runner provides enough foot protection from rocks as the Lone Peaks? Need more protection? Thanks for the helpful review. The toe box feels a little stiff - may need a bit of break in time while the heel didn't need any break in time and zero chaffing. The sole is thin enough to get incredible feedback from the ground but also solid enough that I dont feel every pebble or twig. Although, in this case, Im here to argue thats a good thing; this is a trail shoe, after all. Still, it's not quite as floppy and forgiving as some sandals or even the Xero Shoes Mesa Trail. Having support, whether it be in the arch, heel or ankle means that youre not working those muscles as you should be. Both shoes utilize a 5 mm outsole, a 3 mm foam midsole, and a removable 2 mm insole. Like many ultralight backpackers, I made the transition from classic leather boots to trail runners with no regrets save one. Be aware of the pitfalls. 3 mm protective TrailFoam midsole layer and 5 mm abrasion-resistant FeelTrue rubber outsole, with 3.5 mm dual-chevron lugs for traction and sure-footedness. The Mesa Trail utilizes thinner, more breathable mesh than does the TerraFlex. 4. To clean your terra flex, hand wash with warm water, mild soap and allow them to air dry. It lands squarely between a running shoe and a hiker with breathable yet strong enough uppers and just enough protection and traction on the sole. and receive 10% off our barefoot transition course. Theres no heel cup here, so if you are used to one, you might find the heel fit a bit strange at first. I have at least 20+ miles on them hiking mixed terrain from mountains to gravel roads, grassy meadows, sandy and wet trails. This compliments barefoot running excellently. Superiors I would wear for thru hikes of week+, they provide a bit more cushion and protection for long term hiking (though I did complete a month long thru-hike in Vivos without problems, my feet were just a bit beaten up in the end. I'm a passionate hiker and educator based in the Pacific Northwest. EDIT 07/20/2022 : After completing over 400 miles in the shoe, I now have the data to show where the shoe really breaks down. Just wondering how they would do hiking day after day. Generally, as you increase the cushion, impact forces reduce. Im going to hope they make it 200 miles (6 weeks for me) and replace with another doomed pair of MT10v1 shoes. Ive put 300 miles (483 km) on the new pair and they are holding up even better than the first pair which makes me think that the late-winter running conditions (with occasional punching through sharp snow crust) contributed to the failure of the original pair at the 450 mile (724 km) mark. Instead, performance observations and issues are noted below. The Terraflex II is made with durability and protection in mind, and the thick overlays contribute to a stiffer, more secure fit. There are a number of Xero models with varying amount of cushion. The 5000 mile sole warranty doesnt matter when the sole isnt what wears out. I have been a fan of minimal running ever since I first ran in the Salomon S-Lab Sense. With a large loyal following, Xero shoes have become a household name among barefooters, providing shoes boots and sandals for every occasion. Sole feels a bit heavy and very sturdy but doesn't compromise the shoe's flexibility. Again that makes sense because there is more material underfoot than the other minimal shoes. The Superior is an outlier, but the numbers are not too far off. Thanks for your post - just what I was looking for. RELATED: Best Trail Running Shoes of 2019. Can that make such a difference? I have only just seen this message, sorry! 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